Comments for SKYEBOX http://www.skyejethani.com the weblog of Skye Jethani Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:39:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by Tracey http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5670 Tracey Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:39:45 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5670 Thank you, Skye! So well said. This list represents such a wide spectrum. And indeed, that is godly is what matters. Ask the right question. Amen! Thank you, Skye! So well said. This list represents such a wide spectrum. And indeed, that is godly is what matters. Ask the right question. Amen!

]]> Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by Rusty Curling http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5669 Rusty Curling Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:37:49 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5669 Skye, you're right. You usually don't get the right answer until you ask the right question. You have asked the right question. Skye, you’re right. You usually don’t get the right answer until you ask the right question. You have asked the right question.

]]> Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by Dave Leigh http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5667 Dave Leigh Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:49:56 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5667 Wow Skye! You said so well what I've been thinking since this recent eruption over Piper began. It seems to me that masculine and feminine are typically defined by culture. It was once masculine for men to wear powdered wigs and knickers. In some cultures gardening is feminine while in others farming is man's work. To insist that Christianity conform to such categories makes it subject to culture, rather than setting a standard by which all cultures should be measured and challenged to rise to. What's more, how much sense does it make to insist the Bride of Christ be masculine? And isn't the spirituality modeled by Jesus something both men and women should rise to equally? Thanks for speaking out and please keep up the great work! Wow Skye! You said so well what I’ve been thinking since this recent eruption over Piper began. It seems to me that masculine and feminine are typically defined by culture. It was once masculine for men to wear powdered wigs and knickers. In some cultures gardening is feminine while in others farming is man’s work. To insist that Christianity conform to such categories makes it subject to culture, rather than setting a standard by which all cultures should be measured and challenged to rise to. What’s more, how much sense does it make to insist the Bride of Christ be masculine? And isn’t the spirituality modeled by Jesus something both men and women should rise to equally? Thanks for speaking out and please keep up the great work!

]]> Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by Lee Wyatt http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5666 Lee Wyatt Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:49:41 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5666 In my book "THe Incredible Shrinking Gospel: The Crisis of Evangelism in the 21st Century" I have a section where I compare Greco-Roman norms of masculinity with the biblical portrayals of both Jesus and Paul as an index of the quality of transformation the gospel brought into that world. Feel free to check it out. The book is presently available as a free pdf at http://godswordourwordsandtheworld.blogspot.com/2012/01/incredible-shrinking-gospel-crisis-of.html In my book “THe Incredible Shrinking Gospel: The Crisis of Evangelism in the 21st Century” I have a section where I compare Greco-Roman norms of masculinity with the biblical portrayals of both Jesus and Paul as an index of the quality of transformation the gospel brought into that world. Feel free to check it out. The book is presently available as a free pdf at http://godswordourwordsandtheworld.blogspot.com/2012/01/incredible-shrinking-gospel-crisis-of.html

]]> Comment on Romney DOES Have an Evangelical Problem by Sam Evans http://www.skyejethani.com/romney-does-have-an-evangelical-problem/1129/#comment-5665 Sam Evans Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:49:29 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1129#comment-5665 I'm an evangelical watching from Europe and thinking no candidate seems any good. Not a fan of Romney, and not only because he's a Mormon. I agree with David: policies, values etc are the important things. Of course, if you can have the right values, goals, visions, policies and be an "real" evangelical christian (ie with a personnal relationship with God) it's ideal. (Someone who prays for the nation and for God's guidance -but like David said, the best Presidents haven't uniformly been evangelicals and the worse haven't all been non-evangelicals). Anyway, this is a decision that will not just affect America but the rest of the world too, so vote, and do it wisely, not just out of tradition or emotional (because your family or church or town always voted such or such a way). I’m an evangelical watching from Europe and thinking no candidate seems any good. Not a fan of Romney, and not only because he’s a Mormon. I agree with David: policies, values etc are the important things. Of course, if you can have the right values, goals, visions, policies and be an “real” evangelical christian (ie with a personnal relationship with God) it’s ideal. (Someone who prays for the nation and for God’s guidance -but like David said, the best Presidents haven’t uniformly been evangelicals and the worse haven’t all been non-evangelicals). Anyway, this is a decision that will not just affect America but the rest of the world too, so vote, and do it wisely, not just out of tradition or emotional (because your family or church or town always voted such or such a way).

]]> Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by Dave http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5664 Dave Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:33:54 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5664 Skye: Amen ! You have the best writeup I've seen on the Web about the current "masculine" issue. Dave Skye:

Amen ! You have the best writeup I’ve seen on the Web about the current “masculine” issue.

Dave

]]> Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by ed cyzewski http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5663 ed cyzewski Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:53:34 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5663 Great list Skye! My theory is that in some quarters at least, a kind of Victorian ideal has taken hold to the point that it's been imposed on the biblical text as normative. In my post today I explored the business of making men into knights and warriors who presumably defend passive women and the dark side of these metaphors rooted in Victorian ideals. Great list Skye!

My theory is that in some quarters at least, a kind of Victorian ideal has taken hold to the point that it’s been imposed on the biblical text as normative. In my post today I explored the business of making men into knights and warriors who presumably defend passive women and the dark side of these metaphors rooted in Victorian ideals.

]]> Comment on What is Biblical Masculinity? by MBrown http://www.skyejethani.com/what-is-biblical-masculinity/1140/#comment-5662 MBrown Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:48:40 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1140#comment-5662 Would you make a distinction between "roles" and "traits"? For example, would you be comfortable identifying some roles that are particular to men (per complementarianism), while allowing for a wide spectrum of character and personality traits (not to mention gifts and abilities) in the exercise of those roles? Would you make a distinction between “roles” and “traits”? For example, would you be comfortable identifying some roles that are particular to men (per complementarianism), while allowing for a wide spectrum of character and personality traits (not to mention gifts and abilities) in the exercise of those roles?

]]> Comment on Hello, Rob Bell by Jim Wood http://www.skyejethani.com/coming-soon-exclusive-interview-with-rob-bell/1113/#comment-5656 Jim Wood Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:34:11 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1113#comment-5656 Thanks for responding. I am intrigued by your response. I get the connection to the image in I Cor 3 which is clearly refining, but in Peter, I still can't get past what seems to be more than refining and redemption spoken of in 2 Peter 3:7, and 10-13, especially when compared with Hebrews 12:25-29. Peter sounds to me as if he's describing the destruction of the physical planet. I can't get verses 7 and 10- 13 to be just a refining process. The image is one of sudden, noisy, destruction of things and people. Thanks for responding. I am intrigued by your response. I get the connection to the image in I Cor 3 which is clearly refining, but in Peter, I still can’t get past what seems to be more than refining and redemption spoken of in 2 Peter 3:7, and 10-13, especially when compared with Hebrews 12:25-29. Peter sounds to me as if he’s describing the destruction of the physical planet. I can’t get verses 7 and 10- 13 to be just a refining process. The image is one of sudden, noisy, destruction of things and people.

]]> Comment on Hello, Rob Bell by Carmela http://www.skyejethani.com/coming-soon-exclusive-interview-with-rob-bell/1113/#comment-5652 Carmela Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:02:50 +0000 http://www.skyejethani.com/?p=1113#comment-5652 Refreshing! Christy, I'm with you! Thanks Skye, good interview! Refreshing! Christy, I’m with you! Thanks Skye, good interview!

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